2019 pre-COVID transition
A Transitional Conversation from 2019 KMO is reposting this C-Realm Vault episode from September 2019 as part of the ongoing Getting Over Collapse Notebook project. Listening to it now, the conversation lands in an interesting historical moment: late enough that the cracks in the old narratives were already visible, but still early enough that the world had not yet passed through the strange filter of the pandemic years. In late September of 2019, we were still living in the carefree days of our pre-COVID innocence. The discussion began somewhat accidentally. KMO had just returned from Lancaster, Pennsylvania, where he had recorded a formal studio interview with John Michael Greer . As part of that production, he had the unusual experience of having professional on-camera makeup applied—something that became a passing anecdote in conversation with Doug Lain. Doug initially misheard the story as a complaint about the hypocrisy of celebrity environmentalists. From there, the conversati...
